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Deep Dive on RL and OPD for Training LLMs [D]
Recent advancements in large language model (LLM) training, exemplified by models like Kimi and Qwen, increasingly leverage policy distillation and reinforcement learning from human feedback (RLHF) techniques. To demystify these powerful methods, we’ve published a deep dive exploring the underlying mathematics and code—connecting these algorithms to pretraining and supervised fine-tuning. Discover how RL and OPD are shaping the future of LLMs. Explore the full explanation here: [https://youtu.be/MaZWafi4gYY?is=8jLkAp_Fe86abUVP](https://youtu.be/MaZWafi4gYY?is=8j
Reproducing OpenAI’s “persistently beneficial models” - GRPO trait install barely moves. Ideas? [P] [R]
Reproducing OpenAI’s trait-persistence results presents a significant challenge, particularly at smaller scales. Our attempt to install a "traditionalism" trait (low Openness) using GRPO on Qwen2-7B achieved a minimal improvement of just +2.4 points, falling far short of the ~+15 needed. Despite rigorous debugging—ruling out reward hacking, memorization, and gradient issues—the install remains stubbornly flat. We’re seeking guidance from those with experience in small-scale RLHF/GRPO for trait or persona installation. See "The qlora 2e-4 default is wrong under 10k samples and nobody