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The query posted to Reddit regarding the Journal of Machine Learning Research (JMLR) submission experience highlights a fascinating tension within the AI research landscape. It’s a question born from a specific academic pressure – a tenure review prioritizing journal publications – but it speaks to a broader discomfort many researchers feel navigating the increasingly fragmented publication ecosystem. The original poster's concern about reviewer quality, particularly the prevalence of seemingly AI-generated, inaccurate feedback, resonates deeply with experiences across disciplines. We’ve seen similar anxieties surface in discussions about the reliability of generated code, as explored in Coding Agents Keep Shipping Silent Failures — Here Is How to Catch Them, underscoring the challenge of verifying output when the underlying process lacks transparency. The query’s focus on JMLR specifically raises questions about the evolving relationship between theoretical rigor and practical application in machine learning, and the perceived disconnect between JMLR’s audience and the broader Comp Sci community.
The poster’s skepticism about JMLR’s acceptance of applied, stats-style papers, particularly those bridging finance and machine learning, is valid. Historically, JMLR has leaned heavily toward theoretical contributions, emphasizing mathematical proofs and foundational advancements. While this focus has cemented its reputation for high quality, it can also create a barrier for researchers whose work is more grounded in real-world applications. The protracted review timelines – potentially stretching to three years – are a significant concern, especially in a field where rapid iteration and publication are often prized. This mirrors a larger trend discussed in Starting a Career in Data Science in the Age of AI, where the accelerating pace of innovation demands quicker feedback loops and a more agile approach to disseminating research. The comparison to the faster turnaround times in Stats and Finance journals, where reviewers are perceived as possessing stronger domain expertise, further emphasizes this disparity. The fear of a lengthy, ultimately negative review process can understandably deter submissions, particularly when facing the pressures of academic deadlines.
The underlying issue, as the poster implicitly acknowledges, is the growing specialization within computer science and the resultant siloed publication practices. While conferences like NeurIPS and ICML dominate the mainstream Comp Sci discourse, JMLR maintains a distinct identity, appealing to a community deeply invested in mathematical foundations. This isn't inherently a negative thing; it fosters a culture of rigorous analysis and deep understanding. However, it does create a challenge for researchers whose work sits at the intersection of disciplines, or who prioritize practical impact alongside theoretical contributions. The poster’s anecdote about past experiences with JMLR, coupled with the supervisor’s unfamiliarity with Comp Sci literature, suggests a potential mismatch in expectations and a need for careful consideration before submitting. It’s a reminder that selecting the appropriate venue requires a nuanced understanding of both the research’s content and the journal’s editorial focus. The recent incidents surrounding AI personas, like the issues discussed in Tilly Norwood’s press tour is going about as well as you’d expect for an AI, highlight the need for careful scrutiny and validation of any output, regardless of its source or venue.
Ultimately, the Reddit thread’s questions are a reflection of a larger debate about the future of AI research publication. As the field continues to evolve, will we see a convergence of approaches, bridging the gap between theoretical rigor and practical application? Will journals like JMLR adapt to accommodate a wider range of research styles and timelines? Or will the fragmentation of the publication landscape continue, creating a complex and often frustrating navigation for researchers seeking to disseminate their work? The speed of review processes and the quality of feedback remain critical factors in fostering innovation and ensuring that valuable research reaches its intended audience, and these are questions the community must address proactively.
Hi just wondering has anyone submitted anything to JMLR before? Especially in the last 2 years? What is the experience like?
Background: I am a Comp Sci PhD student, but my secondary supervisor (the one who is actually looking after me) is from the Stats faculty. He has 0 Comp Sci publications and has never even read any Comp Sci papers before. He was only exposed to Comp Sci for the first time after he started working with me.
He has published in multiple Q1 Stats and Finance journals, the big 3 actuarial journals, and a few big 3 stats journals under review.
The issue: my secondary supervisor is preparing for his tenure review, and in his department they value Journals > Conferences. So he really wants to submit our work to JMLR.
My understanding is that JMLR is one of the most prestigious venues for ML, but I barely see their work in mainstream Comp Sci these days. It's always the conferences and maybe TPAMI.
I don't know anyone around me that actually published there. We had maybe 2 people in our circle who had submitted there before, but both got rejected after more than 1 year of review process. (This was almost 10 years ago)
My questions are:
- Are the reviewer quality better than Conferences for papers containing math proofs? Our experience with conferences are we always get at least 1 reviewer who just copy-pasted straight out of LLM. And most of the things they spit out are wrong or asking for impossible proofs. And the ACs don't really have the math knowledge to judge what is right or wrong either. This is a great contrast to Stats and Finance journals, where all the feedback we've gotten was at least correct. We have never gotten attacked for things that the reviewer got wrong or asked us to prove something that is unreasonable for this venue.
- Does JMLR like applied stats-style papers? I.e., a paper with a new method applied to a domain like finance, followed by some proofs about the result or method. Or they prefer pure theory papers?
- What is the timeline usually like? We are used to papers taking up to 3 years to review, this is normal in our field. But we really don't want to get into a situation where the review process took 3+ years and ends in a rejection. It will be hard for this paper to get resubmitted to anywhere given how fast Comp Sci things move. In our field if the review process took that long, it ususally an accept, for rejections they hand it out much faster. (Or maybe because it's a small community, so all the active people know each other)
- Which leads to the last question, do they reject fast? Is it like our journals where if you've survived to round 2 review, you pretty much got in? Or is it frequent that they waste 2 years of your time and then reject?
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